In book fifteen, Athena comes to visit Telemachus in his dream and informs him to journey back home. As he and his crew are preparing to leave, a hawk swoops down. I tried to think of what the significance of the hawk was before I read the actual meaning, and it was not the same. The same thing happened the second time the hawk came down, my predictions were way off! But it was interesting to read the actual interpretations given and see their perspectives on it. I saw the hawk as a sign for good travles, like freedom and strength. I thought it was a sign of Telemachus overcoming obsticles with hardly any trouble. I was shocked when Telemachus allowed Theoclymenus onto the ship with him and his crew because he confessed to killing a man. It made me think of a discussion we had in class about people's past and present and whether or not they can change. Usually people would back away and keep their distance from a killer, but not Telemachus. He did not even think twice about letting him join the crew.
Question: Summarize the two important omens in this book. What is their literary function? In other words, how do they help develop the characters, plot, and/or themes? Also, how do they affect us as readers? Is there any significance in who reads the omens (Helen and Theoclymenus)? Explain.
Answer: Helen believes the hawk represents Odysseus getting back at the suitors and taking back what is his at home. Theoclymenus says it shows the power Odysseus is gaining back at his home. The omens help show how Odysseus is doing even though this book is not necessarily about him. He is gaining back what is rightfully his and shows he isn't giving up on his wife. It may depend on who interprets them because they could have different views of the subject. They both believed it had something to do with Odysseus and his power status.
Question: What are the signs that Telemachus has matured since the last time we encountered him (in Books 1-4)? Consider his behavior toward Menelaus, Pisistratus, Theoclymenus, and his crew.
Answer: Telemachus has matured because he has thoughts of his father that keep him awake at night. He listens to the goddess that visits him in his dream and is wlecoming. He takes in Theoclymenus, although he kelled a man of his own tribe. He begs Menelaus to send him on his way because he longs to go home and realizes what he left behind is actually valuable to him. He values the relationship he has with Pisistratus and seems sincere when describing what they have overcome on 'this tour'.
GQ #1: Can a person like Theoclymenus, who killed a man of his own tribe, be trusted or will he not change his ways and kill the crew because he is welcomed to be 'one of them'? Explain your reasoning.
Part Two
Literary Devices: Tone-
Athena visits Telemachus in a dream and tells him to begin his journey home. With her 'eyes ablaze', she tells him what to do to get away from Menelaus and go home. The tone of her voice made him wake up and insis on the crew packing up and leaving that night. This shows how much power and how influential the gods and goddesses are for mortals.
Epic Machinery: Long, Formal speeches-
Eumaeus tells of his story, point by point, for almost a page before he is interrupted with questions. He asks to be heard and not questioned. After that, he goes on with his story for quite some time. Homer has an interesting way of having every character tell of their background and their knowledge. There seems to be something for every character to say that is interesting and new. This helps get an idea of where the character comes from and what they know.
Translater's Notes-
15:250-55 talks about the prophet, sprung of Melampus' line of seers. Then goes on to describe what Melampus what about. The translation states:
Melampus' line of seers: A different version of the story told at 11.318-40. Here Neleus drives Melampus out and confiscates his property. We do not know why Phylacus imprisoned Melampus, nor why he was persecuted by the Furies, nor how he avenged himself on Neleus. In this version he wins Neleus' daughter Pero not for himself but for his brother. Homer does not mention it, but we learn from Hesiod that Melampus, who could understnd the speech of birds and animals, was released from prison because he had heard worms in the palace roofbeams discussing how thoroughly they had undermined the structure, and so Melampus warned his captor that the building would soon collapse.
This note describes Melampus' line of seers. In the note it is unclear why he was imprisoned, but he has a gift and is able to escape from the jail because of it. The note helps inform where this fugitive came from and why he had gotten out of jail even after killing a man.
GQ #2: Why does Athena closely watch Odysseus and Telemachus, making decisions for them and helping them on their journeys?
Part Three
One theme in book fifteen is the significance of an omen. Some people can think of a meaning for anything that happens in life. How are Helen and Theoclymenus so sure that the hawk has a meaning behind its actions? If they can predict the hawk has significance, then why don't they interpret every little thing that happens because a meaning could be made up. There can also be different ways to view the messages. Although Helen and Theoclymenus did see the hawk in similar ways, there could have been different ways of viewing it.
Paranormal activities can be viewed as signs of the dead trying to communicate with the living. There is an article, http://www.wsusignpost.com/2.3592/ghosts-on-campus-show-themselves-to-residents-1.407588, written by a student at Weber State University about interactions students have had on campus. It is said to be one of the most haunted campuses and there is a definite negative vibe. The author of this piece is actually my cousin, and she told me how she and others felt. They all said they got the impression that they were not welcome; like the campus belonged to someone else and they did not want to share. These voilent actions from the spirits caused several suicides because the students were being tortured and not believed. Omens and signs can be thought of, by others, as made up meanings. So I wonder if more things in life should be interpreted and thought of as something unusual with meaning behind it.
GQ #3: Has someone ever told you something and you didn't really believe them, but something about the way they said it made you do it anyway?
1. I think a person like Theoclymenus can be trusted. Although he killed a man in the past, he might have changed since then. Criminals go to prison and some of them change their ways and become good people when they come out. So I don’t think you should view someone like Theoclymenus as a murderer and assume that he will kill another person.
ReplyDelete2. Athena has been helping Odysseus and Telemachus since the beginning of the story and I am not quite sure if Homer explained why she’s watching out for them so sincerely. But I think she believes that they have qualities of a hero and want to help them to become heroes. Also, she might feel bad for them since Odysseus has been wandering for years, not able to go home because Poseidon is giving him a hard time. And it is obvious that a man cannot fight and win against a god, so in order for Odysseus to go home safely, he needs another god or a goddess to help him.
3. When I argue with my friend about something, I am really confident and I don’t believe my friend’s argument at all in the beginning, but gradually I lose confidence and end up doing what my friend argued about. But I don’t think I have ever experienced something similar to your example.
#1: I feel a person like Theoclymenus will be able to change his ways and sail safely to Ithaca with the crew. It seems as if he is looking for a clean beginning in Ithaca, away from the prosecution of killing that man. I believe he will be able to change his ways in order to avoid any more crimes and prosecutions.
ReplyDelete#2: I feel she is helping both of them because she wants them to reunite and be able to really meet each other for the first time. I feel she has planned out how this will occur so that they will be able to bond like a father and son.
#3: My parents have done this to me a few times. I know that the things they would say are not true, but sometimes I would believe it because they would say it in a way that would make it sound believable.
I believe Theoclymenus can be trusted. Everyone needs a second chance and can change over time. He probably had he’s own personal reasons for the actions he did. I don’t think he will kill one of the crew because you can kind of tell by reading that he feels a sense of guilt and is scared for the wrong doing, he committed.
ReplyDeleteI think Athena aids Odysseus and his son Telemachus because they are almost godlike mortals. All their doings showing courage, leadership and victories makes Athena favor them. Not all the Gods are in favor of Odysseus. Some feel jealous and anger because they are so great and famous. These gods oppose Odysseus and places hardship in his journey.
Yes, there were times I didn’t really believe someone but something inside me made me believe him/her anyways. I think its something in our human nature to want to believe in things that are unlikely true.